Darkstalker Kaathe

Darkstalker Kaathe is a Character in Dark Souls.


Kaathe is a Primordial Serpent, just like Kingseeker Frampt. He is the Leader of the Darkwraiths Covenant, and it was he who tempted The Four Kings with the power of Life Drain which, in turn, led to the eventual flooding of New Londo.

  • Note: Darkstalker Kaathe will not appear if you sided with Frampt and placed the Lordvessel.
  • If you have obtained the Lordvessel, you can go to New Londo Ruins and talk to Ingward. Ingward will give you a key that' will eventually lead to the Four Kings boss (requires you defeat Great Grey Wolf Sif first to be able to walk The Abyss.) After defeating the Four Kings, Darkstalker Kaathe will appear in The Abyss. He allows you to join the Darkwraith Covenant.
  • If you have not obtained the Lordvessel yet, you can kill Ingward instead to get the key, however be sure to buy his Cure Curse spell beforehand.



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First time speaking:
"Greetings Undead Warrior
I am the Primordial Serpent Darkstalker Kaathe
I can guide thee, and illuminate the truth.
Undead Warrior, conqueror of the Four Kings, is this not your wish?
To know the truth of men, and the Undead?"

Answer "Yes":
"A wise choice, Undead warrior.
Prove you must, that the truth becomes you.
Seek Anor Londo.
And claim Gwyn's heirloom, the Lordvessel.
Now go, Undead warrior.
Show the world that the truth becomes you.

Answer "No":
… Very well.
Warriors as yourself are few. I will be patient.
But I cannot wait forever…"

Speak to him after you answered "No":
"What is it?
Perhaps you have changed your mind?"

Speak to him at The Abyss after he brought you to Firelink Shrine:
If you wish, I shall grant the art of Lifedrain,
the legendary power of the Dark Lord.
It can preserve your humanity while Undead,
and cast off the shackles placed upon your brethren."

Using "Talk" option in The Abyss before you put the Lordvessel for Kaathe:
"Undead warrior.
To speak now is premature.
It begins with your retrieval of the Lordvessel."

Speak to him with the Lordvessel in your inventory, before putting the Lordvessel in the altar:
"Hmm… You are astonishing.
The truth I shall share without sentiment.
After the advent of fire, the ancient lords found the three souls.
But your progenitor found a fourth, unique soul.
The Dark Soul.
Your ancestor claimed the Dark Soul and waited for Fire to subside.
And soon, the flames did fade, and only Dark remained.
Thus began the age of men, the Age of Dark.
Lord Gwyn trembled at the Dark.
Clinging to his Age of Fire, and in dire fear of humans,
and the Dark Lord who would one day be born amongst them,
Lord Gwyn resisted the course of nature.
By sacrificing himself to link the fire, and commanding his children to shepherd the humans,
Gwyn has blurred your past, to prevent the birth of the Dark Lord.
I am the primordial serpent.
I seek to right the wrongs of the past to discover our true Lord.
But the other serpent, Frampt, lost his sense, and befriended Lord Gwyn.
Undead warrior, we stand at the crossroad.
Only I know the truth about your fate.
You must destroy the fading Lord Gwyn, who has coddled Fire and resisted nature,
and become the Fourth Lord, so that you may usher in the Age of Dark!"

Answer "Yes":
"Very well
I shall now guide you to Gwyn's Prison
Be still. Entrust thine flesh to me."

Answer "No":
"Fool… You could not be the Dark Lord.
Enough of this… and farewell to you.
I shall return to the Abyss, and await the true Lord of Men.

After being transported to Firelink Altar:
This is Gwyn's prison.
Now, place the Lordvessel upon the altar.

Speak to him in Firelink Altar before placing the Lordvessel:
What is it? Place the Lordvessel upon the altar."

Speak to him in Firelink Altar after placing the Lordvessel:
"Very well.
Once the vessel is filled with souls, the gate to Gwyn shall open.
Seek Gravelord Nito, the Witch of Izalith, and the traitor Seath the Scaleless.
Fill this vessel with their souls.
Then, the gate will open… so that you may kill Gwyn.

Are you ready?
Then, let us return to the Abyss. Entrust thine flesh to me.

Greeting after placing the Lordvessel:
"What is it?
I am your guardian.
Go on, state your wish."

When leaving:

Using "Talk" option after placing the Lordvessel on the altar:
"They failed me, every last one of them.
They were strong, but saw not the truth.
I am certain that you will prove different."

When attacked without made hostile:
Stop! Enough! Fool!"

When attacked and made hostile or after placing the Lordvessel for Frampt:
"Fool… You could not be the Dark Lord.
Enough of this… and farewell to you.
I shall return to the Abyss, and await the true Lord of Men."

Kaathe is voiced by Peter Marinker


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    • Anonymous

      23 Aug 2021 02:06  

      Seriously amazed at how many people are willing to be the gods' little *****es.

      Humans are of the dark, and the Dark Lord ending is the only good one. Period.

      • Anonymous

        20 Aug 2021 23:18  

        Lots of people arguing about this choice but dont forget what our darling Fire Keeper says in 3. After you give her eyes she relays a vision of all encompassing darkness. And in that darkness, motes of light appear. Hundreds, then thousands, then millions. I think those lights are humans lighting their OWN fires, their own flames, coming into their own in a world without gods.

        Gwyn created the dark sign to imprison humans, to keep them from inheriting the true power of their Lord Soul, theirs by right of descent from the Furtive Pygmy. And the cycle of linking the flame is the direct cause of suffering for millions of years; the dark sign and the curse of undeath ensured a steady stream of potential sacrifices without letting on what was happening, imprisoning them or sending them on quests to try and maintain his kingdom. He destroyed the race of dragons for no apparent reason other than to take control of the surface; we're never lead to believe the dragons do more than just EXIST before he and the others started a war. The flame, its self, comes across as being parasitic in nature, requiring more powerful souls as sacrifices to keep the cycle of misery going.

        Gwyn is dead. His world is a shambling corpse worse than any hollow. Choose the greater good; let the fire fade.

        • Anonymous

          17 Aug 2021 01:49  

          On my first NG i sided with Kaathe and link the fire, on my second NG i sided with Frampt and become dark lord.

          • Anonymous

            27 Jul 2021 19:53  

            hate this guy
            i seriously do, hes creepy and has a vibe of evil surrounding him plus he is the one who woke up manus! and he wants me to be the "dark lord" which sounds totally evil. i always go with frampt because all frampt is trying to do is preserve his friends legacy and the world he created with his own hands.

            • Anonymous

              22 Jul 2021 16:05  

              Frampt storms off if he discovers you've been hanging out with Kaathe behind his back, yet still bows down to you in the Dark Lord ending. This seems to imply that he's not genuinely at odds with Kaathe nor the coming of the Age of Dark, he's just pissed he didn't have a chance to manipulate you. His only interest in continuing the age of fire is so he can continue to scam suckers into feeding him valuable goods in exchange for an atrociously meager payout.
              Frampt fans will happily let a fraudster charlatan trick them into lighting themselves on fire, whereas Kaathe enjoyers get to reign supreme as the Dark Lord over the Age of Dark with their cool toothy snake buddy to grab them beers from the fridge while they lounge on the couch and revel in their uncontested dominance over the world, ignoring Frampt who occasionally pops in to request you front him some cash for lunch.

              • Anonymous

                21 Jun 2021 01:25  

                Fascinating how a bunch of youtubers led people to believe that rapists like Manus, people with a backstabbing fetish like 4Kings and Darkwraiths, and cowards scared to die but that have no problem killing others for the greater “good” like Aldia and Yuria lead to the good ending.

                • Anonymous

                  11 Jun 2021 22:24  

                  i love killing four kings before placing with frampt just to whack this shady fool with my Zwei a couple times, hes sleazy and is DEFINITELY hiding something so i always choose frampt

                  • Anonymous

                    29 Apr 2021 19:19  

                    Havent encountered him in my first playthrough ( blind playthrough so only now in ng+ when i looked up some stuff i found out that he exists )...
                    ...so isnt he the guy who screwed over Oolacile into summoning the Abyss thingie via primordial man they seeked ?
                    ( somebody said that it was a "toothless serpent" i always thought that was Frampt, so i generally didnt trusted them... i fully prepared myself for a boss fight with Frampt after Gwyn, didnt realized that that was the end of the game )
                    ...and he tricked the four kings as well.. so it would be his character to do that...

                    • Anonymous

                      26 Apr 2021 13:53  

                      people i have a theory for you. Kaathe is the one who awoke Manus and helped to spread the abyss. in oolacile Gough says to you that "seduced by a dark serpent or no they awoke that thing themselves and drove it mad." i think that Kaathe awoke Manus by tricking the four kings into it!

                      • Anonymous

                        25 Apr 2021 16:26  

                        At least Kaathe doesn’t live in fear. He mentions Frampt without hesitation while Frampt doesn’t mention Kaathe and even lies when he tells us there’s “no reason for pause at this point” when you’re at the altar and haven’t placed the lordvessel yet. Combine this with the fact that Kaathe is hidden and the destruction of Oolacile was the result of Manus and the abyss going wild rather than being controlled and you have yourself a pretty clear picture of which serpent is telling you a more truthful story than the other, at least as truthful as Dark Souls can be of course.

                        • Anonymous

                          22 Apr 2021 18:50  

                          Are you talking to kill him but to run away you can't be the dark lord when you walk out the path after beating the final boss we waited the dark lord our Lord's I like shooting they had a fight and seeing if you attack them beforehand a final hidden boss that they did not

                          • Anonymous

                            28 Mar 2021 11:43  

                            The argument about frampt and kaathe will go on as long as people play the game, but we have to admit that siding with a guy who gives you a tool to steal humanity and calls you the Dark Lord is cooler than a guy who eats all your stuff for piddly amounts of souls.

                            • Anonymous

                              16 Mar 2021 11:30  

                              Which one should I go with, Frampt or Kaathe? I want to be able to invade, but at the same time I want to be able to sell all of the crap that ive picked up over time.

                              • 05 Mar 2021 21:17  

                                I've always been suspicious of Kaathe's motives. Sure, he tells you the truth about Gywn and the linking of the fire, but I feel he's not sharing the whole story. What is his stake in all this, why does Kaathe care whether it's an age of fire or an age of dark? It's very suspicious that the Four Kings, who he taught Lifedrain, die ar your hands and this mf shows up IMMEDIATELY after and teaches you Lifedrain. And what do you do with Lifedrain? You gather Humanity of course, and you offer it to Kaathe to level up in his covenant. So Kaathe is supposedly interested in an age of dark, ok fine but why does he accept Humanity from you? Does he use it somehow? Could it be that Kaathe simply covets Humanity and that sole reason is why he taught Lifedrain to the Four Kings in the first place? I mean he doesn't seem to regret that his actions caused the disastrous ruin and subsequent flooding of New Londo and it's citizenry. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to usher in an age of dark because it means more dark servants to offer him Humanity.

                                • Anonymous

                                  25 Feb 2021 23:59  

                                  The way I always saw it, fire and souls are the physical manifestation of ideals and the will to power, whereas darkness symbolizes realism, banality, and nihilism.

                                  Gwyn's ideals drove him to challenge the archdragons, but after they had been wiped out, the word started to return to that nihilistic darkness, starting with the Four Kings of New Londo. So, he placed a curse on mankind, deceiving them into carrying on his dream by linking the fire, placing the world in a perpetual state of conflict. By letting the fire fade, honor and fame are sacrificed as the world enters a tranquil rest.

                                  What choice you make, of course, is entirey dependent on your morals, but personally, I much prefer the Dark Lord ending. I'd prefer a world without fear, without worrying how to survive day to day. It sounds nice, even if Kaathe is shady asf.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    15 Jan 2021 20:45  

                                    Ask the people of Oolacie what they think about the Dark. I imagine they'll give you a different answer than Kaathe.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      30 Dec 2020 16:31  

                                      has anyone run into a bug where kaathe appears but you are unable to speak to him? if so has anyone found a fix?

                                      • Anonymous

                                        10 Dec 2020 18:48  

                                        On one hand you sustain a mirage created by Gwyn and sustained by his faithful, on the other hand you let the age of dark begin. Darkness is the natural order of this universe, the initial cutscene even paints light as the disrupting force that drives the destruction of the ancient dragons.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          19 Nov 2020 11:23  

                                          All primordial snakes look creepy AF. I got a giant picture of one and made it into a sleep mask, so when you wake up, you just see a primordial snake. This is why Dark Souls 3 is better. Thanks for listening to my TED talk.

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