Pyromancy Flame | Dark Souls Wiki

The ascension option with Quelana makes it look like you are going to throw away all of the upgrades, it is very poorly done. It just says "pyromancy flame".

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No, leveling intelligence doesn’t give any bonuses to the flames but they are still viables options for how many damage you can do with some spells and the fact you can get some of them multiple times if you take the time to go in new game +
I have seen dumb things in Souls games before, but writing on the wiki of the game errors ? The game doesn’t even help you at all, and now the wiki too ?

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I had my flame upgraded to +7 when Laurentius suddenly disappeared. Now I read the wiki and realize that I am forever locked from upgrading it. This ***** Eingyi attacked me first and aggro did not disappear after re-entering the location, what else could I do? Well, pyromancy sucks in this game anyways. The range of spells is pretty much melee and my melee weapons deal more damage in less time.

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People saying that qulena is beside the pillar in blight town are correct, but she only appears if you have a + 10 flame and haven't killed the bed of chaos , also you can get the fire tempest from her for free , by talking to her then killing , quelaug and then the bed of chaos , you don't need to kill the daughter of chaos, eggy will give you the pyro flame if you have 11 intelligence and are egg head, also when you talk to him and he is blocking the path and you say no, just rest at bonfire then retalk to him he'll ask you again, if you talk to him and get a pyro hand ,then talking to lui and answering yes will cause him to head to blight town and go hollow, eggy can bring your flame up to +10 if you haven't killed him and have hollowed lui, also vise versa, providing you haven't answered yes to lui after getting the second flame, also if you don't get a flame from eggy but buy a spell eg poison mist , then go see lui he'll ask you " where U learnt it" prompting the yes or no , which can lead to him heading to blight town and going hollow, idk if this works on remastered but definitely works on vanilla version 1.0

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Can't believe how long it took me to realize your kicks will do fire damage when equipped.

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"hi Quelana. oh, what's that? my Ascended Pyromancy Flame? oh yeah I traded it to a bird for this cool rock. hey, that reminds me, thanks for trusting me to be your only pupil in centuries. it really means a lot! :)"

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Spammed dialogue with Laurentius while in firelink and he went to Blighttown and became hollow BEFORE I was able to upgrade it past +7

Do I have to wait until ng+ to resume upgrading?

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man I killed Laurentius on accident and also killed Eingyi on sight since I thought he'd attack me, so I guess no pyromancy

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but like how do I upgrade it, like do I go into reinforce weapon when I sit down in front of a bonfire or something else

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Ascended Flame +5 and Fire Tempest = Kalameet become Kaladead

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Well shucks, on my first run rn, wanted to know how to upgrade this and now I found out that I'm stuck :)))
Laurentius is gone, and I killed Eingy because I didn't know he wasn't hostile.

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As others have stated, 11 int is the requirement to get the pyro flame from Eingyi, not 12 int as this page states.

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"If you have less than 12 Int Eingyi will not offer you the flame." This is incorrect. 11 intelligence is the minimum, after getting egged, to get the pyro flame.

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Have you ever tried wielding 2 pyromancy flames...?

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Does the pyro flame's upgrade count towards matchmaking?

I only ask because of the fact that it has 21 upgrades, unlike everything else.

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If you choose pyromancer and lose the pyro glove You can get it back again from laurentius?

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so if upgrading the pyromancy flame only increases the fist attack, do you only do it so you can cast better pyro spells?

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Current soul cost for upgrading, plus the overall soul cost for normal and ascended:

Pyromancy Flame +1 500 500
Pyromancy Flame +2 1,000 1,500
Pyromancy Flame +3 2,000 3,500
Pyromancy Flame +4 3,000 6,500
Pyromancy Flame +5 4,000 10,500
Pyromancy Flame +6 5,500 16,000
Pyromancy Flame +7 7,000 23,000
Pyromancy Flame +8 8,500 31,500
Pyromancy Flame +9 10,000 41,500
Pyromancy Flame +10 12,000 53,500
Pyromancy Flame +11 14,000 67,500
Pyromancy Flame +12 16,000 83,500
Pyromancy Flame +13 19,000 102,500
Pyromancy Flame +14 22,000 124,500
Pyromancy Flame +15 25,000 149,500


Ascended +0 25,000 174,500
Ascended +1 27,000 201,500
Ascended +2 30,000 231,500
Ascended +3 33,000 264,500
Ascended +4 36,000 300,500
Ascended +5 40,000 340,500

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I cant get a pyro flame, Laurentius didnt give me one and Eingy didnt either when I talked to him with the egghead. What should I do?

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Wanted to know how many souls to get +10 but that info isn't here. In case anyone else finds it useful, I found the info on another site:
Level Souls Cumulative Souls
Pyromancy Flame +1 500 500
Pyromancy Flame +2 1,000 1,500
Pyromancy Flame +3 2,000 3,500
Pyromancy Flame +4 3,000 6,500
Pyromancy Flame +5 4,000 10,500
Pyromancy Flame +6 5,500 16,000
Pyromancy Flame +7 7,000 23,000
Pyromancy Flame +8 8,500 31,500
Pyromancy Flame +9 10,000 41,500
Pyromancy Flame +10 12,000 53,500
Pyromancy Flame +11 14,000 67,500
Pyromancy Flame +12 16,000 83,500
Pyromancy Flame +13 19,000 102,500
Pyromancy Flame +14 22,000 124,500
Pyromancy Flame +15 25,000 149,500

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ahhh pyromancies, deal a truckton of damage and have a wide variety (plus oddballs fun to use like undead rapport) i generally do lightning weapons with a pyromancer build whereas i use fire/chaos for any other build (whats the point to just fire damage) so i can deal phys fire and lightning damage and just smash through the game

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Toss a soul to your flame. O'valley of plenty...

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Can somebody please be my phanton companion with pyro flame 10 at Blighttown? The *****ass pyro dude got Hollowed

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Be quiet when you have nothing to say. But if you feel real passion in you, then say what you have to say. But say it with fire!

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You can trade this with a Red chunk at snuggly, and a slab if it is ascended

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It should be noted that upgrading the flame affects weapon match making. If you plan to PVP or co-op, keep the flame at the same level as your highest weapon. Going all the way to 15 too early in the game will severely limit online play. You're pretty safe to do it at Anor Londo or further.

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So, can a pyromancer just place their flame on the ground and leave it? In lore?

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The pyromancy dude is gone after showing him chaos flame and i killed the creepy guy next to the girl who gives chaos flame, so where do I to upgrade my pyromancy flame go?

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why is it that i bought a pyromancy flame from laurentius, upgraded it to +11 before he left due to Quelaggs defeat and Quelana didnt spawn. Anyone know why?

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Isn't it "After you reach +10, talk to Quelana of Izalith in Blighttown (Swamp) to ascend the flame." +15?

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iiiii dont want to set the world ooon fiiiiiiiiiiiiire
iiiii just want to staaaaart a flame in my hand

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I got the Pyromancy Flame from Eingyi with only 11 Intelligence.

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are you spawning with it, or do you need to aquire it with pyromancer?

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Flame can only be ascended at +15 not +10.

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Kind of ironic. With a Pyromancy Flame you can conjure up huge fireballs and mighty firestorms, but not in the least light up the Tomb of Giants ...

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It appears that pyromancers flames that are either over +10 or are ascended with Queelana cannot be dropped to summons

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In the "notes" section it says you can ascend after reaching +10, but then later it says it must be +15...
Is this just an error, or is there some criteria to get it ascended as early as level 10?

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do you get to loot a new one as a pyromancer at the start of ng+?

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I'm a warrior. I have pyromancy but cant use it. What stats do I need to use it?

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My pyromancy flame is +5 and it does the same damage as +0

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Beautiful. I accidentally hit the pyromancer in Firelink Shrine, and I killed the eggbacked dude in front of the Daughter of Chaos. Now, I'm stuck with a +9 Pyromancy Flame. God. ****it.

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When you first acquire the pyromancer flame does it count as a wl0 weapon?

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for the sake of clarity: Int affects the damage of the (rather weak) "strike" attack (punch) you can do with the flame. that is the int scaling that is all int does for this 'weapon'. in the original dark souls there is a requirement of 4 strength to use the pyromancy flame effectively, however neither str nor dex have any bearing, if however they apply in the remastered version both will only effect the impact of the strike. Casting speeds for spells can be influenced by dex, supposedly from 35-45 dex it becomes a noticeable difference; this is notable but not a "scaling" for the weapon it's self. damage of pyromancies in the first dark souls is unchanged by int, faith, dex, attunement, and every other stat. The singular determinant for pyromancy strength is the magic adjustment stat of the flame - something increased as you level it up and modify it into it's more powerful form. that said the bellowing dragoncrest ring can increase damage & the lingering dragoncrest ring i believe can influence some buffsdurations such as flash sweat. with my pyromancy flame at +11 my magic adjust is 209 which surpasses the adjustment of any talismans/catalysts i've come across so far. (with an int of 27)

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The INT requirement to get Engyi's flame is 11, not 12. You still need to have joined the covenant and have the egg parasites

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do the stats of the flame scale? becouse if it scales is like pyro itself scale

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Has anyone ever noticed that you can two-hand and block with an ascended pyromancy flame?

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how can I repair my flame?

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I had a +15 Flame and was trying to upgrade it any further but instead i mistaked and downgraded it obviously to level 0. Can anyone help me.

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Am I correct in assuming that upgrading this in the remastered version is the same as upgrading any weapon im terms of matchmakimg

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It's enchantable? Really??

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I believe increasing attunment makes the flame stronger. Needs confirmation.

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Is it possible to obtain two of these?

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Theres a mistake here. Pyro Flame here says scales with Str, Dex and Int. In game only scales with Int.

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she won't ascend my flame +15!!! wtf?

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"If you have less than 12 Int Eingyi will not offer you the flame." That is not true. I receive it even i have only 11 Int.

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How does scaling work here? Do you need to level stats to make your pyromancies stronger or do you only have to level the flame itself?

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