Zweihander | Dark Souls Wiki

Is this okay with minium dex and about 40 str two handing (Yes I know I overinvested into str lol)

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My main complaint is that you can pick this up immediately after you arrive in Firelink. Why have so many weapons in this game when you can grab the only one you'll ever need right at the start?

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Despite the memes, the most optimal build for a regular Zweihander +15 when two handing is 27 Strength and 40 Dexterity. Leveling strength up beyond 27 is worthless.

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Made pure sorcerer build with 16 STR to use Moonlight Greatsword in one hand. But at the begining of the game I decided to craft some backup weapon like Enchanted Claymore or something. Instead I made Fire Zwei. Now I have Chaos Zwei and I no logner need any magic weapons and I even rearely use sorceries since Chaos Zwei turns everything into burning pancakes.

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Too high dex requirement. Thankfully bandit starts with 10 dex and I don't need to lvl it

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Zwei is bae

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Thanks

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My all time favorite weapon for 135 PvP in the township. its an amazing backstab stick. big damage on backstab usually will 2 decision someone out of existence. the r1s are actually pretty damn good r1 -> kick is one of the best options, people will often try to toggle backstab your r1 and fail. and you can say **** it and throw out like 2. but its easily parried so using r1s as mixups the big brain option. and there is a lot of spots in the townshit where if you angle camera down and r1 it clanks off the ground making you immune to backstabs for a short amount of time. banger weapon for goated humans just dont r1 spam with it you will have a bad time against good players. and dont use r2s or running attacks unless your insane ( im insane )

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You'll hit the strength softcap with 27 if you 2hand. From there you can continue to 40str or you can stay at 27 and invest into dex.

27str/23dex will have less 1handed damage but higher 2handed damage.

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Im new to souls games and currently on my first playthrough. Is there any reason to uprade this to Normal +15? All the other uprades seem to do more damage, for example; lightning +5 does 650, fire +10 does 624, Chaos +5 without humanity does 560 (looked it on MugenMonkey planner) and Normal +15 just does 532 having 40 strenght while the other ones don't need stats at all. Is there a mechanic that Im not aware of? Like maybe most enemies resist those elements reducing your damage a lot?

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Love that FromSoft put one of the best weapons in the game available in the first hour of the game, how nice of them :)

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*You invaded the world of GiantDadWannabe#1698*
R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1
Backstab
Fatroll
Chug attempt
Backstab
Target destroyed
Returning with newfound humanity
You were indicted
???
Profit

And thats 2023 geez. Pvp - not even once

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activate the BASS CANNON

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I HAD TO LEVEL UP DEX TO USE THIS, I HATE EVERYTHING

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Summary of the Zweihander's two-handed moveset
R1: **** everyone around me and in this room
R2: **** you in particular
Running R1: **** you in particular but faster
Plunging attack: Falling meteor of **** You

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Thanks bro

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went to ng+ just to dual wield this thing i dont even care if its bad idea

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Making someone violently and immediately become part of the floor with this beautiful thing never gets old

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1 + 1 = Zwei

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Overall one of the best PvE weapons. Very easy to get, the running 2hR1 and standing 2hR2 will stagger even very large enemies, including Gwyn himself. Classic weapon.

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Zwei is a Quality weapon. Very good one. Chaos/Light is ok when you are running with 16 Str and 10 Dex. But if you want get real damage make it to +15 Regular and invest some points into Str and Dex.

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"Generally seen as low tier in more competitive PvP [...]"

Whoever wrote this has absolutely no clue about the real strength of a Zwei. It has the ability to easily stunlock you, especially when your opponent mess up with the positioning or with a failed parry attempt. Some people are trying to roll bs you, because the weapon is slow? Just lock off your target and simply swing it in the opposite direction you are currently facing. Boom stunlocked 99.9%.

Make sure that you don't infuse the Zwei with Chaos, because the split damage won't give you enough power, when you manage to stunlock your target. Just run a normal Quality Build with 27 Strength and 45 Dex as this weapon is a natural Quality weapon, which gives you around 612 Damage, which is also around 10% more damage than the Murakumo. The only reason why the Murakumo was so popular is simply because people could cheat with dead angles, which are now gone. Running a Quality Build with 45 Dex gives you the opportunity to fast cast with your Pyromancy Flame, giving you the true combo kick + flame.

The Meme build (Giant Dad) makes this weapon look bad. But in the right hands, the Zwei is truly a powerful weapon.

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Vinheim Dragon School, question form final year's exam:

You are lone sorcerer with Moonlight Greatsword as your main weapon. Enemy with high magic protection stands in your way. What do you do?
A) Charge and die with honor on battlefield.
B) Teleport out or run away as fast as you can.
C) Keep distance and use your strongest spells to defeat enemy.
D) Switch to Chaos/Lighting/Fire Zweihander and turn enemy into pancake with R2.

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If you have at least 16 STR and 10 DEX (but don't tell anyone you leveled that up) it's always handy to keep Chaos Zweihander +5 in inventory. You don't have to use it all the time but there are many slow AI enemies that are weak against fire and best tactic to fight them is keeping them stunlocked to interupt their every attack. This is the moment where chaoshander kicks in. Low requirements, devastating poise damage and decent physical and fire damage on top. Lightning path is also great for this.

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This thing is an absolute poise-destroyer, the two-handed R2s pancake almost everything and any most things that don't get pancaked, usually get stunned, the R2 is surprisingly fast for an attack of its power although it does less damage than the R2s of the others in its class the superior speed and ridiculous poise damage more than make up for that shortcoming, It's capable of stunlocking things with its R2s that even the Dragon Tooth, Great Club or most great hammers wouldn't be capable of stunning, hell I somehow pancaked goddamn Havel of all people with it once, make no mistake, even ignoring the memes this weapon is insanely good for how early you can get it

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Power up the dead meme

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lightning infused because i want to kindle all bonfires save solaire not have to go in the laval also chaos +5 with 10 humanity only deal 27 more damages than the lightning infused and lightning is stronger in PVP.

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Ah the beautiful and mighty Zweihander, Pancake-maker extraordinaire

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using this weapon is just like sex feels good to use

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"Acceptable early game weapon" As if this thing isn't an absolute beast that arguably triviliazes most of the game as soon as you get it and steadily keep upgrading it, Almost as if the person who wrote the info part died to a giant dad one too many times and is salty about it

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GiAnT DaD aPrOcHeS PREPARE UNDEAD

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REV UP THE BASS CANNON

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Is there any where to get a 2nd one in game besides NG+? I have a +15 one but want to make a chaos one as well, guess I need to go to NG+

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It should be Zweihänder and not Zweihander

- A German

I'm probably also one of the only people that knows how to pronounce it.

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''An acceptable early weapon''

bruh

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Power up the B A S S C A N N O N

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Aah you were at my side all along. My true mentor. My guiding Moonlight... Sorry wrong game

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Actually made this game too easy for me. Killed artorias on the third try with just a +10 and knight armor

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I like how the Hints and Tips are comparing it to the Murakumo even though they are entirely different, comparing a dex focused curved gs to a strength scaling ultra gs is pretty stupid.

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Many new players ask - "what's the best weapon for PvE?" Many players respond something "it depends on your playstyle since there is no best weapon blah blah blah". Yo! People! Stop repeating this crap! It's totally bullsh*t!

There are simple rules when it comes to PvE and most AI controled enemies:
- Use something with long range so you can attack and don't get hit yourself
- Use something with wide attack so you can hit many enemies
- Use something dealing high poise damage to stunlock enemies and block their attacks
- Use something hitting hard since best tactic is usually dodge/block and attack at right moment so big damage is advised

Zweihander has all of this. Zweihander can be found at the begining of the game and will kill most common enemies in 1-3 hits (as long as you keep it upgrading with game progress). Zweihander requires only 16 STR to be used in both hands (24 if you want use shield in second hand).

Use light attack for wide shlashes with decend speed, range, damage and staggering effect. Use strong attack for slow and mighty death from above smash with great hp and poise damage.

As long as you put points in Endurance Chaos/Lightning Zweihander is one of the best PvE weapons for casters.

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All the memes aside, this is a very strong melee weapon especially considering how easy it is to obtain and how low the stat requirements are. You only need 16 Strength if you twohand, which is something you can achieve before venturing out Firelink Shrine for the first time. It's an immensely powerful weapon in the early game and still great later even though other colossal weapons will feature better scaling with high Strength.

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Power up the base cannon!

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Transformei a aminha Z pra crystal e queria q ela voltasse a ser padrão dnovo mas num sei como fazer

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zweihander simps unite once again

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You can tell the "hints and tips" segment was written by someone who got wrecked by a giant dad build lmao

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The path of the zweihander should have been an actual covenant

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"an acceptable early weapon" as if this doesn't make the entire game easy mode lol.

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Is this a page talking **** about the zweihander? Outdone by the murakumo? This is some dumb ****.

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Is it worth it to turn my +10 zweihander into artorias's greatsword?

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Why is zwei low tier for pvp when all the things the author is complaining about are a much bigger issue in the murakumo which they suggest as an alternative?

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POWER UP THE BASS CANNON

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10/10 weapon

-Giant Dad

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THE LEGEND NEVER DIES!!!!

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This thing with +5 lightning upgrade path carried me through the Duke's Archives as a mage. Thanks, bonc sword!

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*Casual

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ooooohhhh the smell, the toxicity of this comment section. reminds me of the PKCS page on the DS3 wiki

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frampt tryna scam me, 50 souls? for this weapon? i guess it's time to party with kaathe, come here doggy sif, it's time to get the ring early

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This weapon turns me into a redditor. Whenever someone swings it at me i upload a silver tracer to the site, the site being their back.

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I killed Lactrec in 2 hits with this badass weapon, it's not a joke.

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this weapon legit makes dark souls even more easy, so many knockdown able enemies it's not even funny

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Miazacky is a Guts wannabe

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HOHOHOHO IT'SA ME SANTA CLAUSE
THIS WEAPON IS NAUGHTY AND IF YOU USE IT, YOU WON'T GET ANY PRESENTS TO CHRISTMAS!!!
HOHOHO, THE MACE IS BETTER!!! I USE THE MACE EVERY DAY AND IT'S THE GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREATEST WEAPON ON EARTH!!!
IF YOU WANT TO GET AAALL THE PRESENTS, USE THE MACE JUST LIKE ME!!!
MARRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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this weapon + red tearstone ring + gold pine resin = 2 bells ringed in less than 5 hours

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It is unacceptably slow even for PVE.
If your enemy is not single, then you will be probably dead because enemies will definitely hit you when you are trying to swing this (or strong attack that's not the case)

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let us put aside our arguments of giantdad (LEGEND NEVER DIES) and dex Vs STRENGTH [T]/ to say that this is a good weapon for a lot of builds. cmon guys we all have one thing in common dont we? we all like this game and play it in our own ways.

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Let's assume, for the sake of the argument, that you could one-hand a Zweihander. In that case, hypotethically speaking of course, you could two-hand a Dreihander

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I replay DS1 every now and then, I tried a lot of different builds but there's one "comfy" build I always come back to : start as a bandit with the master key > pick up the Zveihander (use the XP from the tutorial to level STR and DEX so I can wield it before leaving the shrine) > get the ring of favor > get the havel ring > go to the darkroot garden to get the knight armor > get the crest shield. All of this can be done in an hour or two, later on I replace the knight armor with Havel's armor and I become pretty much invincible at that point.

It get going VERY early, it's OP, and it's the build that represent the first game of the serie the best with the broken poise, slow movement and absurd strength damage.

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Giant
Giant
Giant
Becomes unstoppable

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Rating weapons based on looks:
The cross looking blade is just outstanding
10/10

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This ''weapon'' has shorter range than demon's spear, doesn't hit as hard as demon's greataxe and not even fast like uchigatana.

TRASH!!!!!

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As a fresh Casul, I have a humble question: the damage of the Chaos-Zwei is really impressive, but can I also use it to injure opponents who are immune to fire? So spider witch and CD?

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The legend never dies…

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PVE it's a great weapon probably one of the best. PVP I'd say it's a mid-tier weapon? maybe good, is not a bad weapon but not Top Tier for sure.
If you choose to fight with this on PVP you must learn to go Unlock sometimes; because Lock fighting an opponent with a Zweidi it's quite dangerous. The weapon is kind of slow, that makes it parryable (and all around punishable), it has the same issues that all Ultra Greatswords have: they force you to a certain style of fighting (same can be said about all weapons but is more noticeable with greatswords I think) but this style can really surprise some players.
On the good side, is very powerful, the moveset is ok, and its fantastic for Dead Angles (probably among the best weapons doing that) I've seen players doing amazing things with Lock/Unlock play with a Zweidi. And is always fun.

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Turning anything and everyone into pancakes with this Bass Cannon is a never-ending source of joy and serenity

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IMPOSTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
AMOGUS

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bad

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Why did my mobile Switch to vibration Mode upon visiting This Page?

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No. No. No. This is all wrong. By the Gods, get this filthy piece of iron away from my eyes. This barbaric lump of metal is no paragon for the triumphant WINGED SPEAR.

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I’m in anor Londo and is so hart and oristin and Smoug is so so sooo hardddddddd all my humanity i have like 3 that’s not good

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Cool swords in dark souls the upgrade of my sword is in + 3 I use the black night great sword and is in + 4

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giantdad memes aside lets admit this is a great weapon, its simple yet reliable moveset just smashes through bosses and its damage on ANY upgrade path is superb, plus its low stat requirements to 2hand make it an excellent option for any quality/str build ZWEIS FOREVER

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I remember using the zweihander. It was a really good weapon, even though I had to two-hand it because I didn't meet the strength requirement.

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This is just as much cancer as dark bead or gold tracer or falchion. Any scrub that relies on this has no right to whine and complain about other forms of cancer. But just to be real, most builds have some kind of gimmick they rely upon to be successful, it's just some require more IQ than others to operate proficiently. I can't complain about this weapon choice, it helped me master the toggle escape technique.

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If you are on this page "I know exactly what your intentions are" young undead ;)

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PKCS is so much fcking better why would you use any other cancer weapon when you can acually get good and stop being in denial of the fact the PKCS is the ultimate killing machine. I dont need pancakes to win i have acual skill

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Hello people of dark souls, would anyone like to rate this build? 3/4 giant armor with boar helm (fully upgraded) along with +15 zwei, +5 ascended flame, all the chaos pyros + great combustion and fire orb. i call it.... the Giant Chaos Boar! if you like this ty and stay safe, and as always praise the sun! [T]/

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Go Ellen!

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it...is...complete...GIANTDAD IS COMPLETE

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Guys how do I get green titanite shards

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I am doing a build for the zwihander any advice?

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AND DON'T F*CKIN FORGET - YOUR C H A O S TWO-HANDER AND GRASS-CREST SHIELD

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use darkmoonblade and power within with high strength,it will kill everything

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****ing monster i just made on fire and i oneshoted taurus demon in undead burg

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how much strength and dexterity do you need to one-hand the zweihander?

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When I'm bored I switch to this page and read new comments about BASS CANNON, 10 DEX, RINGS U GOT, etc.

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the weapon wielded by THE LEGEND GIANTDAD HIMSELF

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Now I’m not a big fan of this game like others....but I think I just discovered a way to get bonus souls using the Zwei. Dang I wish I could post a video of it.

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This is such a fun weapon! Two-handing in EK armour, grass shield on my back, mask of the child, Havel’s ring and RSP/wolf ring, running round smashing things up is a good way to let off steam! Simple pleasures!

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Had a +10 Zwei in Anor Londo. Tore through Smough like insulin through his type 2 diabetes.

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can people pls tell the requirements to use this weapon or simply put it on the page

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