Big Hat Logan

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Big Hat Logan is a Character in Dark Souls.

Once a royal member of Dragon School, he is now a scholar of the soul arts. He turned Undead over a hundred years ago, and has been roaming Lordran, searching for more wisdom ever since. He is first encountered in Sen's Fortress, trapped inside a hanging cage in a blocked off area, and will teach relatively advanced magic after being rescued. He had a traveling companion in Griggs of Vinheim, but became separated from his company upon entering Lordran. Griggs mentions that Logan did this "For his safety...".

Encounters

1. Found inside a cage in Sen's Fortress

  1. To reach him you will have to rotate the "boulder machine," so that the boulder crushes a wall behind a sleeping Man-Serpent. Alternatively, the guard's attack is capable of destroying the wall if the player attacks him and positions him in a way that he will strike it. Only the Man-Serpent's thrusting attack will destroy the wall.
  2. You can use the Cage Key or the Master Key to open the cage. The Cage Key is found at the top of the castle. Jump across the broken walkway that leads to a lone tower, then descend the stairs. Kill the Man-Serpent and pick up the key.
  3. It is not necessary to have freed Griggs of Vinheim.

2. Back at the Firelink Shrine

  1. Logan will teach you various advanced magic spells, but only if your intelligence stat is 15 or higher.

3. Big jail cell in The Duke's Archives

  1. After encountering Seath the Scaleless in his room, you will wake up next to the 2nd bonfire of the Archives, trapped inside a cell. Kill the Man-Serpent through the bars to grab the key to your cell off of his corpse. From the bonfire, turn right out of the cell and head all the way down the spiral stairs to find Logan in a large cage at the bottom guarded by a group of Pisacas.
  2. The Archive Tower Giant Cell Key which opens his prison can be found in a chest in the room with the collapsible staircase on the bottom level of the main building (the room before the crystal golem garden that leads to Crystal Cave).
  3. Either after you have rescued him from his cell or after you have defeated Seath the Scaleless, you can find him behind the shortcut bookcase that you opened to gain access to the crystal golem garden. Pass through it and he is on a small alcove in the left of the library.
  4. At this point he will sell you crystal variants of the original spells along with the originals. You can also talk to him for hints on how to defeat Seath the Scaleless. Note that you MUST buy all of his spells or he will not become insane.
  5. It takes 183,000 souls to buy every spell from Logan which is an important step in his quest.
  6. After you buy all of his spells and defeat Seath the Scaleless, Logan will not recognize you and tell you not to bother him, which leads to triggering his final appearance.
  7. Talk to him several times, and you'll notice that he's clearly gone mad. Now rezone / reload again (may take two reloads) and he'll have left that spot.

4. Final: Original room from Seath the Scaleless.

  1. ‍His final appearance is in the original room where you first encountered Seath. Logan has gone insane and starts attacking you with his spells. Killing him will reward you with his drops.
  2. After you kill him, go back to the room where he sold you his spells. You will find a chest in his place with Logan's Catalyst, as well as the remainder of the Big Hat's Set.

Note: You will need to reload the game before each of these events if you have not done so since defeating Seath the Scaleless.

Big Hat Logan's Inventory

Sells icon intelligence  Uses  Slots  Cost 
Sorcery
Sorcery  Soul ArrowSoul Arrow 10 30 1 1,000
Magic WeaponMagic Weapon 10 5 1 3,000
Strong Magic ShieldMagic Shield 10 5 1 3,000
Great Soul ArrowGreat Soul Arrow 14 20 1 6,000
Heavy Soul ArrowHeavy Soul Arrow 12 12 1 2,000
Great Heavy Soul ArrowGreat Heavy Soul Arrow 16 8 1 8,000
Homing SoulmassHoming Soulmass 18 10 1 20,000
Soul SpearSoul Spear 36 4 1 40,000
Crystal Soul SpearCrystal Soul Spear 44 4 1 50,000
Crystal Magic WeaponCrystal Magic Weapon 25 3 1 20,000
Homing Crystal SoulmassHoming Crystal Soulmass 24 10 1 30,000
White Dragon BreathWhite Dragon Breath 50 20 1 Drop

Drops

Character Info

Regular Logan:

Insane Logan:

 




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    • Anonymous

      Tf you mean spells none, this guy defo uses soul Spear, homing soul mass (and crystal variants) and white dragon breath.

      • Anonymous

        I think Logan and Lucatiel are the only times in the series that you get to see the process of going hollow.


        I guess it's like undead dementia?

        • Anonymous

          I purchased all of his spells. Killed Seath, returned and spoke to Logan who did not recognise me and told me not to bother him, warped out of the area and then back in to find the chest with most of his gear there. Far simpler than the guide suggests. I then went up the elevator, killed nudie Logan, got more drops, got the ember from the chest, and then the Soul of a Great Hero from the corpse up the stairs.

          • Anonymous

            I had a couple playthroughs where I got his set first before fighting him, and when I did, he was just in his hat and shoes lol

            • Anonymous

              i recall at first time i met him, i slash him accidentally and require absolution, and return back, is annoying...
              and when he is at archive room, and the room is quite dark, i accidentally slash him... again...

              • Anonymous

                Logan teaches patience, notice that he doesn’t move to new locations if you don’t listen to all he tells you.

                Many a time I found myself going back to him in Sens or in Firelink because I didn’t find him in the next location.

                He also warns us how much of a grind the sorcerers path is, but man that crystal homing mass with crystal catalyst on decent intelligence is like a crystal key opening bossrooms with a click on ng+ and further..

                • Anonymous

                  If I had already bought spells from him before the Duke's Archives do they count? Or do I have to buy them again to make him go insane?

                  • Anonymous

                    Didn't have to fight him for the chest to appear in the archive. Beat Seath, talked to him to see that he's angry, reloaded, and the chest was there.

                    Doubt it made any difference, but I had bought everything from him before fighting Seath.

                    • Anonymous

                      Lets play a game of Find my Logan. I freed him in Sen's Fortress, bought his sorceries in Firelink Shrine, but I have already been in The Duke's Archives and have defeated Seath. Went to check in the big cell under the bonfire where you spawn after dying to Seath, but he was not there. Also checked the library on the side of the second bonfire in the area, but no Logan there either. Any suggestions?

                      • Anonymous

                        Big Hat Logan drops the White Dragon Breath Sorcery, the Tin Crystallization Catalyst & the Big Hat after you defeat Seath the Scaleless.
                        He doesn't just drop them like this wiki page says.
                        You also don't have to make him go insane like most people think you have to.

                        • Anonymous

                          why can no one explain why his name is big hat, these comments say it's because of his humongous hat but it doesen't seem to be related, help!!

                          • Anonymous

                            mfs shocked fromsoft would make a character called dung eater when they literally called this dude Big Hat

                            • Anonymous

                              accidentally got him hostile towards me, not in the mood to farm 30k souls... im not going ot use any sorcery in my first time playing anyhow

                              • Anonymous

                                I killed Big Hat Logan while he is still not insane(note that I still have not killed Seath), after I killed Logan I go to Oswald to Request Absolution, the game said I am not sinned!?

                                Can someone please explain?

                                • Anonymous

                                  I really love the Monty Pythonish thing about Logan - you could imagine him saying “stop that!” in Graham Chapman’s voice when being aggroed, going “Right!” when fully aggroed, standing up and casting soul spear into the aggrevant’s face. Just me?

                                  • Anonymous

                                    So... Quick question:
                                    What if once I killed DragonBoi, I can find Hatman's chest but not the man himself in the cave?

                                    I tried quit/loading and warping, but nada. The dude refuses to show up. Anyone else facing the same situation?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      The children made fun of Logan because he had a swollen head from dumping it all into intelligence. Later on in life, he decided to cover it up with an oversized hat and moved to another city.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        I've seen the Man Serpents 2nd wide swing break the wall but it was at a very specific angle. On a separate unrelated note killing Big Hat Logan while he is still in the cage without opening it will cause his drops to not spawn.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          Alright they call him Big Hat Logan because he wears a ducking big hat that covers his face. Not everything have to related to lore.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Big Hat Logan left firelink before I could buy Soul Spear, does he appear at the next area (The Duke's Archive) selling the spell?

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Logan will teach you various advanced magic spells, but only if your intelligence stat is 15 or higher.

                                              Not exactly true. If you do the entire questline w/ 10 int, Logan will offer to sell you his advanced spells after being freed and returns to the Dukes Library. This can be helpful if you wish to buy all his spells in a normal game but not invest the stat points until maybe NG+ or later.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Does anybody know why they actually call him Big Hat Logan in lore? VaatiVidya's video wasn't very informative, and the wiki doesn't seem to have much to offer.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  I came to this wiki solely to learn why they call him Big Hat Logan. The fact that such information does not exist means that this wiki is useless and incomplete.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    He seems to drop WDB and the tin catalyst once he's in the library, I killed him there without buying any of his crystal spells and got them

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      when you find him at first youre gonna think "wtf im gonna fall off this b*tch if i try to talk to him"
                                                      but somehow you manage to make it work
                                                      -KingCroc

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        So wait, if i kill the iron golem before blasting the hole to his place, does that mean i can't free him? since the giant stops dropping balls after you kill IG

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          So I freed him from Sen’s, beat seath, bought all of his spells and he doesn’t want to move to the archives even though he says he will move soon. I always do the duke’s skip and that normally works to progress the quest line but now it suddenly doesn’t work. Btw I tried to warp between bonfires and used the dark sign several times.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            His hat has no magical powers but it does hint to others to F off and stop bothering him which is all the more valuable

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              So I just finished Anor Londo and Logan is now at Firelink, but I have not the 15 INT leveled, does he still go for the Archives or do I first have to level the INT? Im planning to go for New Londo and to Ash Lake either way so by the time Ill go to the Archives I would have the 15 points surely

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                There’s a fantastic detail with Logan that I mistakenly took for an error all this time. When you talk to him for the first time after freeing him from the archives prison he’s already losing his sanity by this point. The dialogue line about Seath “his wounds close promptly and no mortal blow affects him, granting true insulation from death” is said twice but if you listen carefully his tone of voice IS different the second time he says it meaning it was fully intentional and seems like an oversight at first! His sanity slipping becomes obvious after this like the mumbling and telling you to stay away from him after buying all spells but I love this extra detail before all that probably more than I really should.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Also known as "Hefty helm henry", "Crazy cap Clyde", "Large lid Larry", "Huge headgear Horatio", "Substantial sombrero Sal",

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    Do I need 15 int for him to sell me sorceries? I figured he would be a nice guy and drop the int requirement after saving him in the archives.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Perhaps my favorite NPC. Of course, Princess Gwynevere is the overall favorite, and maybe also Laurentius for the way he says "don't you dare go hollow."

                                                                      But the Big Hat must be the most courageous and strong NPC who isn't some sort of loon or idiot. Siegmeyer is always sleeping, and relies too much on our player, and Solaire is pretty competent but he is a lunatic. But Big Hat Logan is the Chad of all regular humans in the Dark Souls world.

                                                                      I killed him in a fun way, to give him an enjoyable last battle. I used nothing but black firebombs and crystal ring shield blasts.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I believe his parent's (or potentially legally designated guardian's) choice to assign him the title of 'Big Hat' at birth can be attributed to naming traditions that rose to prominence in the United Kingdom during the English renaissance. Said custom entailed that the choice of a baby’s surname was to be made with the intention of ensuring the child grows up to inherit the traits said surname promises- ex: Giving a child the last name 'Smith' with the hopes of them growing up to be a blacksmith. While this practice is long since archaic, its legacy has survived to the modern day, as occupation based names such as Smith, Miller, Hunter, Baker, Mason, and Carter dominate the Western world today. It’s important to note that while the aforementioned naming convention likely originated around the joint Anglo-Saxon occupation of mainland Britain, (which, to put into perspective, directly followed the fall of the Roman Empire) it didn’t become a cultural staple in the region until many centuries later, when a surge in commerce and culture allowed the return of artisan crafts. In reality, the presence of the manor-centric class structure that dominated the European Middle Ages (colloquially known by historians as 'The Dark Ages' or 'The Middle Ages') while at the time necessary for maintaining a form of social order, ended up rendering the centuries during which it occupied western Europe in complete cultural limbo. The name ‘Logan’ itself derives from an ancient Gaelic (Scottish) dialect, and with Scotland notably being a major geographic part of Britain, we can conclude that, at least in part, the character has direct heritage in the Great British region. Now when considering the name “Big Hat Logan” ’s etymology and the historical context of the unorthodox title, we can conclude that indeed, Logan’s parents named him as such because they aspired for him to wear a big hat.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          I love how my sorcerer’s duel with Logan was based solely on who connected the first spell. He could one shot me and I could one shot him and it was brilliant because NPC’s dodge the spells so it was quite tense for an AI fight.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Reloading the Archives once you've seen that he has gone mad, does not make him change location. You need to speak to his apprentice at Firelink first for this to happen. (At least this is how it worked for me)

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              If don't buy all his spells at once and keep talking with him, you can realize he's slowly getting insane. Really interesting feature although depressing

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                the spells are sold by the apprentice at the shrine ..NOT LOGAN. logan disappears after rescuing him from the cell in duke's archives. you have to buy the spells from his apprentice.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Can you complete his quset line without dying to seath the scaleless cuz i killed seath and then i saved big hat logan from sen fortress

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Went up to fight him prepared for a difficult fight my crystal soulmass immediately killed him and now I feel bad... Sorry buddy

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Helpppp I killed Seth and then i saved him from the cage in sens fortress qnd alredy opened the cell because he wasnt there and i cant find him anywhere

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Fucn dumb. Wish I had read the NOTE before I did all these because now I don’t see him but his chest was there...thanks NG+ here we go.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          i was wondering: i want to complete AotA before i face Seat the Scaleless, so i tought on an strategy tracking the crystal golem with the broken pendant, leaving the Duke's Files right away and making my way to Oolacile... at the moment Big Hat Logan is in Firelink Shrine still... if i take the actions described above, he will be still in Firelink Shrine after y finish the DLC?... i just cleared Anor Londo and also already put the Lordvessel in place

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