Big Hat Logan | Dark Souls Wiki

Why do they call him Big Hat Logan?

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Didn't have to fight him for the chest to appear in the archive. Beat Seath, talked to him to see that he's angry, reloaded, and the chest was there.

Doubt it made any difference, but I had bought everything from him before fighting Seath.

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Turns out he doesn’t actually wear a hat, that’s just how his head is shaped

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Lets play a game of Find my Logan. I freed him in Sen's Fortress, bought his sorceries in Firelink Shrine, but I have already been in The Duke's Archives and have defeated Seath. Went to check in the big cell under the bonfire where you spawn after dying to Seath, but he was not there. Also checked the library on the side of the second bonfire in the area, but no Logan there either. Any suggestions?

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Guys i dont have much time the reason hes called big hat logan is beca

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He told me I can't learn sorceries and then just didn't sell me any sorceries.

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Big Hat Logan drops the White Dragon Breath Sorcery, the Tin Crystallization Catalyst & the Big Hat after you defeat Seath the Scaleless.
He doesn't just drop them like this wiki page says.
You also don't have to make him go insane like most people think you have to.

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His hat doesn't drop when killing him normally. Only when he goes hollow :(

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why can no one explain why his name is big hat, these comments say it's because of his humongous hat but it doesen't seem to be related, help!!

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mfs shocked fromsoft would make a character called dung eater when they literally called this dude Big Hat

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What if Logan actually IS the hat, and the guy is just a puppet controlled by the hat?

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i ship ranni and logan..Both hat a lot in common….okay il leave now

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pretty big hat ngl

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accidentally got him hostile towards me, not in the mood to farm 30k souls... im not going ot use any sorcery in my first time playing anyhow

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I killed Big Hat Logan while he is still not insane(note that I still have not killed Seath), after I killed Logan I go to Oswald to Request Absolution, the game said I am not sinned!?

Can someone please explain?

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I really love the Monty Pythonish thing about Logan - you could imagine him saying “stop that!” in Graham Chapman’s voice when being aggroed, going “Right!” when fully aggroed, standing up and casting soul spear into the aggrevant’s face. Just me?

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So... Quick question:
What if once I killed DragonBoi, I can find Hatman's chest but not the man himself in the cave?

I tried quit/loading and warping, but nada. The dude refuses to show up. Anyone else facing the same situation?

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still pissed that they never reveal why he's called big hat logan

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The children made fun of Logan because he had a swollen head from dumping it all into intelligence. Later on in life, he decided to cover it up with an oversized hat and moved to another city.

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I've seen the Man Serpents 2nd wide swing break the wall but it was at a very specific angle. On a separate unrelated note killing Big Hat Logan while he is still in the cage without opening it will cause his drops to not spawn.

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Alright they call him Big Hat Logan because he wears a ducking big hat that covers his face. Not everything have to related to lore.

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Big Hat Logan left firelink before I could buy Soul Spear, does he appear at the next area (The Duke's Archive) selling the spell?

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Logan will teach you various advanced magic spells, but only if your intelligence stat is 15 or higher.

Not exactly true. If you do the entire questline w/ 10 int, Logan will offer to sell you his advanced spells after being freed and returns to the Dukes Library. This can be helpful if you wish to buy all his spells in a normal game but not invest the stat points until maybe NG+ or later.

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Comically Oversized Hat Logan

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Big Hat Logan the type of dude to strip completely when he takes a ****

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It costs 183,000 souls to purchase all of his sorceries.

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Does anybody know why they actually call him Big Hat Logan in lore? VaatiVidya's video wasn't very informative, and the wiki doesn't seem to have much to offer.

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He only goes insane after you give him a bunch of money,seems kinda stingy.

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What going bald does to a mf

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What if he wears the hat because he's got a maggot on his head and THATS whats driving him insane...

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SCARAMOUCHE

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I came to this wiki solely to learn why they call him Big Hat Logan. The fact that such information does not exist means that this wiki is useless and incomplete.

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Logan is the big hat's name.
The person underneath him is unknown and merely a vessel controlled by Logan

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He seems to drop WDB and the tin catalyst once he's in the library, I killed him there without buying any of his crystal spells and got them

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he hat big

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It takes 183 000 souls to buy every spells from Logan.

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when you find him at first youre gonna think "wtf im gonna fall off this b*tch if i try to talk to him"
but somehow you manage to make it work
-KingCroc

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So wait, if i kill the iron golem before blasting the hole to his place, does that mean i can't free him? since the giant stops dropping balls after you kill IG

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So I freed him from Sen’s, beat seath, bought all of his spells and he doesn’t want to move to the archives even though he says he will move soon. I always do the duke’s skip and that normally works to progress the quest line but now it suddenly doesn’t work. Btw I tried to warp between bonfires and used the dark sign several times.

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I freed him from sens after beating seath and he is at firelink right now, but when he moves, will he move to the archives prison or the area around the second bonfire?

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I've seen bigger.

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Farewell.

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His hat has no magical powers but it does hint to others to F off and stop bothering him which is all the more valuable

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Big Соск Logan

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So I just finished Anor Londo and Logan is now at Firelink, but I have not the 15 INT leveled, does he still go for the Archives or do I first have to level the INT? Im planning to go for New Londo and to Ash Lake either way so by the time Ill go to the Archives I would have the 15 points surely

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Does anyone know why his name is big hat Logan? I can’t find any reasoning online anywhere.

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I'd like to mention that he only drops the Big Hat in his last encounter, as well

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He has a big hat

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There’s a fantastic detail with Logan that I mistakenly took for an error all this time. When you talk to him for the first time after freeing him from the archives prison he’s already losing his sanity by this point. The dialogue line about Seath “his wounds close promptly and no mortal blow affects him, granting true insulation from death” is said twice but if you listen carefully his tone of voice IS different the second time he says it meaning it was fully intentional and seems like an oversight at first! His sanity slipping becomes obvious after this like the mumbling and telling you to stay away from him after buying all spells but I love this extra detail before all that probably more than I really should.

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Big Hat Logan

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This guy one-shot me right after i entered seath's place

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Also known as "Hefty helm henry", "Crazy cap Clyde", "Large lid Larry", "Huge headgear Horatio", "Substantial sombrero Sal",

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he doesn't ever need an umbrella!

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If i forgot to rescue him in Sens and do it Now after seath is dead will he still appear at Archives?

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Do I need 15 int for him to sell me sorceries? I figured he would be a nice guy and drop the int requirement after saving him in the archives.

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Perhaps my favorite NPC. Of course, Princess Gwynevere is the overall favorite, and maybe also Laurentius for the way he says "don't you dare go hollow."

But the Big Hat must be the most courageous and strong NPC who isn't some sort of loon or idiot. Siegmeyer is always sleeping, and relies too much on our player, and Solaire is pretty competent but he is a lunatic. But Big Hat Logan is the Chad of all regular humans in the Dark Souls world.

I killed him in a fun way, to give him an enjoyable last battle. I used nothing but black firebombs and crystal ring shield blasts.

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I believe his parent's (or potentially legally designated guardian's) choice to assign him the title of 'Big Hat' at birth can be attributed to naming traditions that rose to prominence in the United Kingdom during the English renaissance. Said custom entailed that the choice of a baby’s surname was to be made with the intention of ensuring the child grows up to inherit the traits said surname promises- ex: Giving a child the last name 'Smith' with the hopes of them growing up to be a blacksmith. While this practice is long since archaic, its legacy has survived to the modern day, as occupation based names such as Smith, Miller, Hunter, Baker, Mason, and Carter dominate the Western world today. It’s important to note that while the aforementioned naming convention likely originated around the joint Anglo-Saxon occupation of mainland Britain, (which, to put into perspective, directly followed the fall of the Roman Empire) it didn’t become a cultural staple in the region until many centuries later, when a surge in commerce and culture allowed the return of artisan crafts. In reality, the presence of the manor-centric class structure that dominated the European Middle Ages (colloquially known by historians as 'The Dark Ages' or 'The Middle Ages') while at the time necessary for maintaining a form of social order, ended up rendering the centuries during which it occupied western Europe in complete cultural limbo. The name ‘Logan’ itself derives from an ancient Gaelic (Scottish) dialect, and with Scotland notably being a major geographic part of Britain, we can conclude that, at least in part, the character has direct heritage in the Great British region. Now when considering the name “Big Hat Logan” ’s etymology and the historical context of the unorthodox title, we can conclude that indeed, Logan’s parents named him as such because they aspired for him to wear a big hat.

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Others: Wow Dark Souls has some incredibly deep lore

Us: He called Big Hat Logan cause he wear a big hat

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Pretty sure that he is wielding a falchion instead of a scimitar

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I love how my sorcerer’s duel with Logan was based solely on who connected the first spell. He could one shot me and I could one shot him and it was brilliant because NPC’s dodge the spells so it was quite tense for an AI fight.

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Reloading the Archives once you've seen that he has gone mad, does not make him change location. You need to speak to his apprentice at Firelink first for this to happen. (At least this is how it worked for me)

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Nobody's hats that big. Not even Long **** Johnson.

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Mage build here I come...

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M'aiden

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He should be a Mortal Kombat character

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if he took that hat off, would he die?

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If don't buy all his spells at once and keep talking with him, you can realize he's slowly getting insane. Really interesting feature although depressing

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where is small hat larry

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His hat is..kinda big

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In the room under the staircase, the key glitched out of the chest, and is gone now.

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Big Fat Logan

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the spells are sold by the apprentice at the shrine ..NOT LOGAN. logan disappears after rescuing him from the cell in duke's archives. you have to buy the spells from his apprentice.

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Can you complete his quset line without dying to seath the scaleless cuz i killed seath and then i saved big hat logan from sen fortress

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why is he called big hat logan help

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ummm why he has to wear a big hat ?

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Went up to fight him prepared for a difficult fight my crystal soulmass immediately killed him and now I feel bad... Sorry buddy

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Helpppp I killed Seth and then i saved him from the cage in sens fortress qnd alredy opened the cell because he wasnt there and i cant find him anywhere

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Fucn dumb. Wish I had read the NOTE before I did all these because now I don’t see him but his chest was there...thanks NG+ here we go.

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i was wondering: i want to complete AotA before i face Seat the Scaleless, so i tought on an strategy tracking the crystal golem with the broken pendant, leaving the Duke's Files right away and making my way to Oolacile... at the moment Big Hat Logan is in Firelink Shrine still... if i take the actions described above, he will be still in Firelink Shrine after y finish the DLC?... i just cleared Anor Londo and also already put the Lordvessel in place

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anyone know why he has that name?

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Big fat Logan

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So if I didn't free him from Sens Fortress before getting the Lordvessel where would he be?

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You must let him out of his cell, reload, meet him at the side room next to the room with the stairs that go down and to the yard before the crystal cave, buy everything before you kill seath. After you kill seath light fire but don't sit, homebone to the last fire (mine was the one closest to Logan that hangs over the yard. Go directly to Logan, he will say all sorts of crazy things he doesn't know you. Leave, I went to seaths room and grabbed the big magic ember and the hero soul. Then I went and warped to firelink because he wouldn't leave where he was sitting and so I messed around a minute and got the trophy for magic weapon, warped back went back to downstairs room, he was not sitting there anymore, went up to seaths room he was standing naked in his hat. Had all silence and fog gear merc'd him before he could get a spell off, he dropped dragon breath, his hat, and tin crystallization catalyst, but not his underwear. I still don't have his outfit just his hat. Will reset and see if it pops up in seath's room. Did this in the last 30 minutes no issues whatsoever. I did all his previous steps obviously or he wouldn't have been locked up to start with. -tearlach2

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If you don't save him at Sen's Fortress, he won't be in the prison at the duke's Archives

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I purchased all his spells he went mad and when I went to seaths boss arena he was not there and the chest apeard in his place.Wtf happened?

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interesting insight: you do NOT need 15 int to buy stuff from him in Dukes, only in Firelink does he have an INT check. Though i might infrom anyone trying to 100% or smth on a low int char.

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The wiki is wrong. He wont drop his hat unless he is crazy in seaths room

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Dudes, ive done every single part twice until the last part where he goes insane in seath's, i have the remastered ps4 edition, he Just wont appear there, i dont know what else to do.

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Trash

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During my first playthrough of dark souls, I was told to kill logan as soon as I freed him, because he would kill people in firelink. Is that true?

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I love Dark Souls's lore. It's so mysterious and open to interpretation/ theorycrafting. For example: Why is his name Big Hat Logan? No one knows for sure.

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Do you have to wait to beat seath? Or can you kill seath the scaless then buy the remainder of Logan's spells to complete big hat Logan's quest line?

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Yes it100% drop your missing a step
Once he goes mad meet him where first fight seath
U kill him there u get spell half his set then reload and he drops sunthin
Reload again go to chest and rest of set

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Went through all the steps to turn Logan mad, and he didn't drop his hat or the TCC. We did get the spell (White Dragon Breath) and a humanity, and even went and got the rest of his set in the chest along with Logan's catalyst. Does anyone know if this is a drop with a high drop rate and we just got super unlucky, or is there something we can do to get them still?

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For anyone in dsr if you are having trouble making Logan leave firelink after placing the lordvessel what worked for me was going up the shortcut lift then stepping out to undead parish then walking back on the lift and return to firelink, this worked for me after talking to Logan several times, talking to Griggs, reloading the game several times, warping to other places, and killing two bosses didn't.

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How do I unlock the crystal spells? Thx in advance.

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I was able to buy magic from Logan when I had 12 int

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The complete hollowing of characters like these always saddens my heart.

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Can conform that Logan leaves Firelink Shrine after water is drained from New Londo Ruins. Which will let you buy an additional Soul Spear and Homing Soulmass spell from Griggs.
-Remastered Edition

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Ok next playthrough i am gonna create a chubby sorcerer and name him Big Fat Logan.. I am pretty sure many have thought this before me but I find it hilarious

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